Resignations, abdication and some rambling on


This week we have all (well most of us) been surprised by the Pope’s resignation, or was it an abdication?

I have to confess some uncertainty over the correct term for it. As it has been some centuries since the last time a Pope said “ok count me out folks”, I suppose a level of confusion is to be expected.

The usual question when a high-profile position is vacated is relevant here. Did he jump or was he pushed?

As, to me, this had always seemed the “job for life” situation, the option to opt out had never occurred to me as possible for these men. I must admit I had occasionally spared a thought as to what the high-ups there would do / would have done when one of the popes goes off his rocker. Can it be hidden? Does someone slip “a little something” in his bed-time milk?

King George III of England went potty. Some nasty condition called porphyria. Poor chap wasn’t to blame, it is genetic, not caused by something he did. They didn’t retire him, nor apparently did they do the dirty and bump him off. But by then the King wasn’t doing the daily job of running the country in detail, so it wasn’t the worst thing that could happen to the country, devastating as it was to his family.

So just how important is the role at the head of an organization? Does it matter if they are sick, tired or crazy? I guess in some cases it is vital.

Or are the big conspiracy theorists correct, that there is a little group running the world, getting every president / prime minister / monarch to line up with what they want?

If so, do they have a leader, and what if that leader goes crazy?

Or maybe that is what is wrong already?

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24 thoughts on “Resignations, abdication and some rambling on

  1. I doubt if we’ll ever hear the real reason for the Pope’s “retirement”. Doesn’t matter, anyway.
    One person who did the abdication thing is Queen Beatrix (of Holland). She’s had enough, and I don’t blame her, and after many, many years the Dutchies will have a King and Queen again.

    1. The Dutch Royal Family have been sensibly ‘retiring’ before their age becomes an issue in their public role. It is a demanding one, and personally I believe people are entitled to retire when they have served long and well

  2. Good question.

    If speaking organizational or institutional, not really problematic in the long haul. But if your talking ‘a worthy cause’ where one has a strong voice, an speaks to the heart of the movement a change there is suspect. As for the Pope and the Catholic Church, am not sure who is push who. Not a clever response, am sure others will be better.

    1. I sometimes wonder if eventually the voices of teh many protesting bad action or lack of action from ‘leaders’ will force the people who select leaders to force change of leadership to reduce the complaint and protest

      1. Isn’t that how it is suppose to work already.

        First you have to question the motive of those protesting. Questions, questions, questions, oh let us not forget we have to question ourselves as well -zen yammerings. Why can’t things just be fixed and be over with it. Guess that is why we have change of leadership…..keeps the machine rolling along. Not necessarily a good thing (as per Ruth’s alien origins post) …maybe we need tough talking poets in high places -seems they have all but disappeared…I nominate Ruth.

  3. Good questions that.
    If there are a little group sorting everything behind the scenes, they are the kind of people that removes the sick lame and lazy – they’re only in it for the money in any case.

  4. It seems to me his health has suffered. He wants to be able to fulfill the duties that as pope he is supposed to be able to fulfill. Mercy, if at age 85 and suffering from overwork and bad health he voluntarily leaves his post to let someone younger and more capable take over, I can’t see what is wrong with this. It is the sensible thing to do, isn’t it? He deserves to live a quiet life in retirement without having to feel anxious about it that the work is just getting too much for him. After all most 85 year old ones would be regarded to deserve living in retirement. Why not the pope when the workload and the stress to handle everything adequately probably has increased over the years. Why not? Just because it has hardly ever been done before? I think he has set an important precedence. Our world changes all the time. Even the papacy changes somewhat over time. It’s hardly totally the same as hundreds of years ago with all the changes in our modern world. Some change is bound to happen, even though some other things apparently stay the same.

      1. I think even the Catholic Church must face up to it that some rules need changing. The present pope is now leading the way to it. Good on him. He probably did a lot of reflecting and soul searching before he announced his decision . . .

  5. Hi Sidey. I came here to make a comment, but Auntyuta has said it all.
    I believe the humility to retire in a job at which the last retiree was 600 years ago, must be , to say the least, considerable.
    Thanks for the post. Such posts keep the little grey cells active!
    John

    1. John, my grey cells buzz around a lot. The problem is pinning them down long enough to post something.

      I have always felt no one should be in a post for too long. Fresh thinking is good and the occasional failures are compensated for by more successes.

      However he has presided over an organisation that has been shown to shelter criminals, and he has been wishy washy about it. So i am glad someone else must face the outcry.

      1. If you belonged to this organisation, as I do, you would have seen protection measures being quietly put in place over the last ten years, Sidey. The outcry has been effective.

        1. it still protects their own, not hand them over for criminal prosecution. Render unto Caesar etc….

          It is still functioning as a secret male-only society that protects its own at the expense of others

          1. Haha, Sidey, I enjoyed reading these comments. I think you have every right to leave, retire, abdicate or whatever if you lose the ability to do your job to the best of your ability. If you stay on your work and your health will suffer due to the strain of carrying on. Not at all good. Nice post!

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